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Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby Choppercrazy » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:35 am

Dwight wrote another piece http://www.dwightschultzfansite.nl/engnotes.ph

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Re: Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby DrJen » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:19 am

He is as far from an American President as can be imagined!


How right you are, Dwight. From my vantage point it seems that he has been working very hard to destroy the American dream, which appears to have been the goal of The New Party - basically communism by a different name. While Mr. Obama gets cozy with some of the huge international corporations and hands out taxpayer dollars to the financial blackhole green projects of his political campaign contributors, he seems bent on destroying small businesses, inventors, and entrepreneurs in general. That is by definition not a real American President in my book.
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Re: Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby KaizokuShojo » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:22 am

Everyone is up in arms over Obama’s comments about entrepreneurs not making it on their own, but why should anyone question Obama’s comments when he signed a contract with the….. NEW PARTY…..which stated “Our major economic problem is not the government, as conservatives claim, but American enterprise itself.”


A lot of people just have difficulty wrapping their minds around how a man in the office of president can be so profoundly against American ideals (and, at that, so profoundly stupid). Even those of us who know what an undermining liar he is can get blown away each time he opens his mouth to say something like that. He's...the worst bad guy ever. He's a horrible liar, he can't draw people to himself except for those being blinded by others. He's not charismatic--the more charismatic people (like in the media) just lie and make people believe he's charismatic, blinding them totally.
It's like... He says one thing, and before you can finish saying, "How could he ever say anything THAT stupid!!!" he says something ELSE that tops it.

Maybe he's trying to kill us off by having us facedesk/facepalm too much. We'll get brain damage and fall over like vegetables. Yeah. That must be it.

Obama's just so mind-blowingly.....gah. "He is as far from an American President as can be imaged" sums it up quite nicely.
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Re: Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby writer525 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:20 pm

It seems I remember another person who was by definition "Charismatic". His name was Adolpf Hitler and look what he did to Germany and the world. I hope and more than that pray that he is not reelected, but I fear the American public has been brainwashed with him by the media. So I also pray for this country. Will it be America if he gets four more years? I don't know, but I don't think it will be the America that my grandfather, father, uncle, and husband have fought for.
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Re: Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby hla » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:17 am

I had not heard of the New Party prior to this blog, so thought I would take a look into it and located a link to the New Party Principles.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Polit ... iples.html

Most of this personally I disagree with. I thought however to highlight just a couple of policies which I personally found quite disturbing.

In the pre-amble the two statements that bothered me most suggesting the removal of freedom of choice.
Ordinary people can do extraordinary things if they are organized.
Such moral irrelevancies as race, gender, age, country of origin or inheritance continue to determine too much of one's life chances, and this undermines the very idea of a democratic society.


I think I could spend hours nit picking each of the policies and my reaction to most of this is WHAT??? I have listed three below with the questions I personally have about the policies and their implementation.
* Full employment, a shorter work week, and a guaranteed minimum income for all adults; a universal "social wage" to include such basic benefits as health care, child care, vacation time, and lifelong access to education and training; a systematic phase-in of comparable worth and like programs to ensure gender equity.

- What is full employment and who employs all of these people.
- Who dictates the social wage?
- Who pays for the child care, the education,
- What is a comparable work and like programme, who enforces it and who pays for it?
* A society in which we all take seriously our responsibilities as parents, workers and citizens.

- Why is this a policy as it should be a matter for the individual.
- How would this be enforced?
*
Rebuilding our cities and metropolitan regions-the cornerstones of a high-wage and ecologically sustainable economy-through community-led programs of comprehensive, democratic, high-wage, and low-waste economic development.

- Who is paying the high wage?
- Ecologically sustainable ecomony?
- Comprehensive democratic high wage and low waste - I wonder how the local corner store will fare in this?

I have attached the link to an article from the Breitbart website that discussed the New Party contract as from Mr Kutz' book.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... es-to-Join
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Re: Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby MizHowlinMad » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:55 am

Socialism really is awesome until you run out of other people's money.

The main problem is, all this stuff is terrific on paper, but, who's going to pay for all of it? There will always be people who either don't want to work or can't work. It sure isn't going to be them. And if you tax the workers into oblivion, they won't have any money either.
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Re: Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby hla » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:22 am

by MizHowlinMad » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:55 am

Socialism really is awesome until you run out of other people's money.

I quite agree.
What personally I think is worse is the removal of personal freedom of choice for these dictates to be implemented. Its the loose wording that sounds wonderful until you really look into what it costs the individual in order to achieve the outcomes.
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Re: Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby MizHowlinMad » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:37 am

Right you are, hla...how many of these chokeholds on freedom, from the TSA to the health care law to the various Nanny State laws, have been done in the name of the "greater good?"

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Re: Everyone is up in arms over Obama

Postby bcbdrums » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:55 am

I have to be honest, I have never been able to listen to a complete speech of Obama's, except the one he gave when Bin Laden was finally killed. But other than that, every time Obama speaks, the amount of illogic and and insanity and often flat-out stupidity coming out of his mouth drives me from the room. This last one did the same for me. It makes me wonder...how on earth did he convince people to vote for him??? I am not knowledgeable when it comes to politics, but surely anyone listening to him can hear that everything he stands for is the opposite of America...right? Well, no, sadly, people vote for who they think will slip them some cash and benefits. Like all those people who don't want to work...

MizHowlinMad wrote:The main problem is, all this stuff is terrific on paper, but, who's going to pay for all of it? There will always be people who either don't want to work or can't work. It sure isn't going to be them. And if you tax the workers into oblivion, they won't have any money either.


It's the people who don't want to work that really bother me. I know some personally, so it's a very frustrating topic. And Americans today tend to think they are better than everyone else, and therefore above menial jobs, like say...putting stickers on produce. Or picking the produce. I could go from here into all the economic and job issues that comes with the topic of illegal immigrants, but I think I'll leave that one alone for now... But Americans who don't want to work and then freeload off of the system really get to me. I know of a particular woman who keeps custody of a child just to get foodstamps and other freebies. I also know a man out where I live who is a professional beggar. He's been working the same block for as long as I've been alive, just getting handouts to live by. It's extremely sad, when so much money that could go to people who truly need it, goes to bums who could care less.

Slight topic change, re: this post http://dwightschultz.freeforums.org/obama-if-you-ve-got-a-business-you-didn-t-build-that-t4661.html#p49271, and on the subject of why people voted for him...sadly, I think a lot of it was to do with race. I know several African-Americans, all Christians, who voted for him because he's black. And they're all young college students, all Democrats... But, within one year, every one of those people regretted it. I've confronted them and asked why they voted for him, and they admit it was just because he was black and they truly had no idea about his policies, and they'll be changing their votes this time around. I'm glad their spiritual standards brought them back to the right way of thinking, but I don't know if that's going to be enough to get him out of office.
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